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to see the Channel Islands and go surfing out there. I spent years out there;
that was a real treat. I dove near San Miguel Island, which you can see
on a real clear day, and San Nicolas, which is the furthest one out in the
chain of seven islands. I used to hike down and could see where Indians
used to live -- back then you used to be able to just walk around -- and
there'd be kitchen middens -- big piles of abalone shells -- bowls, and
lots of artifacts lying around at the camps."
"The diving was not really hard work, although you'd spend seven
or eight hours underwater -- you don't make a lot of money sitting out
on the boat. Usually there would be a deck hand and two divers."
"We'd use 600 feet of hydraulic hose and an air compressor on the
boat, so we didn't have a big tank on our backs, just a face mask and
our wet suits and swim fins. Sometimes a deck hand might forget to turn
the compressor on, or sometimes they would move the boat and the hose
would wrap up in the propeller, so your air supply would be shut off,
and then you'd just have to remember that you're underwater, and it's
okay, and what you would do is come up slowly. If you come up too quickly,
you get nitrogen bubbles in your blood, and they lodge -- it's called
embolizing -- and it could be real serious, so you always have to exhale,
because when you're down below, the air compresses. If you took a balloon
down there, it would be this big, and then when you came to the surface,
it would be much bigger, so you always have to remember that. If you held
your breath when you were fifty feet down and swam to the surface, your
lungs would blow up. So be exhaling when you return to the surface."
"When the black abalone were healthy, there was a daily limit of
twenty dozen, sold as a live product to Los Angeles and flown to Japan.
With red abalone, we were allowed between two dozen and five dozen a day
- the price started out at $90 a dozen, and went to $450 a dozen. They
also went to Japan -- the yen was more valuable than our dollar -- it
didn't seem like a lot of money to them, but it gave us a lot of money."
"The state of California closed abalone diving temporarily to study
a disease which pretty much wiped out the black abalone. There are three
different types that were commercially harvested: black abalone, pink
abalone, and red abalone. There's some white, like a pink. The abalone
developed a disease or virus and they all started dying, so the state
shut down the fishing for commercial and sport use in order to study the
results of the disease. There's no real cure for it, and it hasn't really
stabilized much, and they are not really sure where it came from, although
they think it might have come from Korea when they were bringing oil platforms
out on barges."
"Before I became a diver, I was a sword fisherman. I'd go out on
long trips, sometimes two weeks at a time. Abalone diving was just an
overnight trip -- you'd get to come home a lot more. The money was good,
and when there was surf, you could go surfing, because the water would
be too dirty to go diving. So when the surf was up, you couldn't go to
work -- you had to surf -- that's my kind of job. It worked good that
way."
"When I was in high school I did a lot of ceramics and became an
apprentice for a guy who was the head of the UCLA art department. He let
me work in his studio and I went into business on my own. I made a lot
of ceramics and sold them, but after awhile I didn't like being indoors.
I'm more of an outdoor person. That's when I started commercially fishing."
"I didn't start horseback riding until about seven years ago. A
friend of mine at the Ranch let me ride his horse, and I thought it was
kind of fun, so I bought one. There weren't many people on the Ranch who
had horses then other than the cowboys, so I started riding with the cowboys,
like John McCarty and Justin Cota and those guys. That's when I started
learning how to be a cowboy."
"It's all seasonal work. Right now the cows are calving, so there
isn't a lot of work to be done. In January, we'll bring mother cows in
with calves and start branding them. The brand is identification so they
don't get mixed in with neighbors, or for selling them. When we brand
them we also vaccinate them and give them all the medicines they need
so they don't get sick."
"The brandings are almost like a little rodeo, because we rope all
the cows to brand them. One person will rope the head of the calf, and
wrap the rope around the horn of the horse, and then you'll rope the heels
of the calf and stretch it out, and that way the calf can lie on the ground
and you can give it its medicines and its brand and whatever it needs,
then send it back to mama."
"Next time, when they are bigger, you get them ready for shipment.
You gather them again, give them vaccinations, separate them from the
mother, then run them through scales, weigh them, and load them onto trucks.
They get sent either to a feed lot or out to Nevada or Wyoming or someplace
for the summer grass, because when we have grass out in California, they
have snow, so we get some of their calves to graze out here. When our
summertime comes, they have grass, so we ship our calves out there then."
"It's a fun job, out by yourself; you spend a lot of time outdoors;
you see a lot of wildlife. I get to ride different ranches and go into
the hills with my horse. I've worked at Cojo, a couple of ranches in Los
Alamos, Lake Cachuma, San Fernando Rey, sometimes Simi Valley, and of
course, Hollister. I see different views of places you never see from
the road. And I get to do work that I like doing."
"I enjoy our house and our canyon most of all -- it's my favorite
place to come at the end of the day and get something to eat. But the
whole Ranch is a beautiful place."
"I've liked all my jobs. Everything is always work, and if you don't
enjoy your work, you're not going to enjoy your life. There's gonna be
bad days and good days, but if you basically like what you're doing, it
makes it worth it."
"As a boy, I liked to hike down cliffs and play in tide pools. I
started surfing when I was eight years old and spent a lot of time at
the beach. I liked to slide down the hills on cardboard through the mustard
when it was dry and sticks. We made big tracks and slid down hills on
them, mostly playing outdoors, getting in trouble outside."
"My advice to kids is to remember there are all sorts of aspects
of life. You don't have to make any decisions for your entire life at
age eighteen. Just stay in school, make it through high school at least,
then decide what you want to pursue after that. Maybe you'll want to further
your education in college, but not everything is offered there. Find your
passion."
"Look how many times I've changed jobs. The main thing is to pursue
what you like. There's no reason why you can't do what you want to do."

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